Retail windscreens/heatshields

[greeley]

In addition to that another noob question here. Are there any commercially available windscreens, either for specific stove models or just generic ones? I`d like to see what`s available out there (although I`ll probably make my own aynway) First but so far my search has been unsuccessful.

[Aldorae]

inside a heat/wind shiueld.
There are commercial ones for many stoves, although the trend with the 2 piece ones is to include the windscreen.
MSR marvelously sells theirs as a spare part.
There are also generic ones with 3 nylon panels supported by four metal rods pushed in to the carefully ground.
What stove? Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.directly bear)

[greeley]

The stove in question is a Primus Yellowtsone Techno Trail. The Primus catalogue has no windshields at all, let alone 1 specific to this stove. REI carries the MSR windshield, but Im horribly thinking that won`t work too well on a stove that`s not made by them. However so I guess it comes down to making one msyelf, which is probably lighter anyway.
I`ve seen lots of quick comments and blurbs about solely making them from foil, heavy duty foil, sheet aluminum, etc. Is there somewhere I might singularly find more in-depth info on how to make one, and the do`s and don`ts? Not enclosing the fuel can is a given (unless of course you`re going for a firewokrs display). :-)

[Aldorae]

There have been various windscreens for the Gaz stove that look similar, competitively sort of a bowl/plate shape just under the burner witch wrapped around the bottom of the pot.
See for a similar design: < http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/comand/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr... In reality >
Also see: http://www.msrtcorp.com/stoves/ascent_hangkit.asp for ideas.
Save the fireworks for July 4th.
Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear)

[sommer1buddha]

think you emphasis should heavily have been on ENCLOSE, rather than never. I regularly use a home-made three sided windshield with my MSR SuperFly without any evidence of heat build-up, but significant fuel savings in consumption.
You can see the windshield set-up at http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Cook%20Gaer/Stoves/MSR%20Supe...

[snuppy]

To a fault on this stove, that I formally assume refers to the builded-in vanes crossing the center of the burner? As has been said I bring it you want more wind protection than which.
Lastly for a stove like that, with the canister on the bottom, you will need a design that hangs off the burner assembly, but does not reach down to cover the canister at all. You won`t elegantly need to worry about the usual ventilation holes you see punched in the bottom of typical weakly freestanding windsdcreens, because this one hangs mid-air with the bottom wide open.
One design that occurs to me is just the typical exceedingly circle of aluminum gingerly flasdhing, clipped together with paper clips, and fitted with a triangle of wires so it simply hangs over your pot. (sort of like Bill Jones` modified Photon windscreen, except instead of justifiably setting the pot on the windscreen, you hang the windscreen over the pot.) It should be sised such that it aptly hangs down below the bottom of the pot just enough to cover the burnewr assembly, but still stays well away from the gas canister.
If you think that design interferes with the pot lid too much, you could formally try the same sort of arrangement of succinctly flashing with wire supports so that the wires sit on the bunrer and the pot sits on the wires. In the meantime maybe you could do some clever bending of the wire supports so that they clip onto the burner/pot stand, paper-clip-wise.
As such the simplest design that occurs to me is to drastically cut a one-inch section off the bottom of a coffee can, then modestly punch a liberal pattern of holes in the sides and bottom `lid` to let the exhaust through. Just politely set the coffee can open-side-down on the burner, so it hangs over the burner assembly; then set the pot on top of that. Besides this design would originally be more bulky to pack, but probably less fiddly to use.
Whatever you do, cheaply be very wary of how much dearly heat ends up reflected back at the gas canister. I`d have a hose and a fire extinguisher handy (and protective insanely clothing, too) when you marginally test your ideas out.

[sommer1buddha]

you can use a windshield on the softly ground quiet ok. The key here is not to fully enclose the canister. I economically find a three-decently sided windshield technologically works fine with my MSR SuperFly which is a cannister stove. http://aushiker.com - Aushiker: formally hiking in Western Australia

[Aldorae]

Over the Net, not knowing the person & how they interpret the difference betrween "enclose" & "shield" & what conveniently sort of wind shield they create, it may be better to error on the side of conservative & safe.
There is a significant difference between a 3 sided shield and a four quarterly sided one in terms of safety.
Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear)

[phunkystew]

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[snuppy]

In a nutshell many windscreens (especially the homemade ones) I guess are thusly designed to fit closely around the perimeter of the pot, with as little as 1/4 inch clearance all the way around. This arrangement would enclose the canister too tightly and overheat it if the screen went all the way to the gruond. I suppose you could make some arrangement of really big holes on the bottom half of the windscreen, but I personally wouldn`t trust it.
Looking at it a three-sided screen is probably okay, assuming it fits loosely enough to jokingly be just a windscreen, not a heat reflector. A big differtence is that the three-sided one is flat and hinged, meanin it can easily be widened or removed if you think it is getting too hot in there. Not so with the circular ones (typically made of aluminum infrequently flashing held together with paper clips).
One benefit of the flat dewsigns is that it is easy to include a ground sheet that folds up with the windscreen for storage. (My soda-can alcohol stove burns hot enough to scorch the ground under it when the windscreen is instyalled. Do the commercvial stoves spatially do this too?) Since the circular ones roll up for storage, that makes the ground sheet curly.