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    Nope, that'll never happen unfortunately.

    However, I think we could, just maybe, possibly lower our needs of fuel. But that'll take a lot of sacrifice (as if we already aren't sacrificing enough already) of today’s modern car and lean more toward electric cars. I still this as a totally realistic achievement. That will in turn raise the demand for electricity over time, but what’s worse of the two evils?
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    that's dread. thanks for the link. good thing for me is that the AT basically veers away from where that crap is taking place,

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteOak View Post
    well, data was collected only near the existing gas wells. areas without any gas wells were not examined at all. the poisonous substances seep up from areas which are being processed by the bastards in charge of gas extraction.

    and by republicans.
    Hehehe here is the wiki on the former "gov".

    Edward Gene "Ed" Rendell (pronounced /rɛnˈdɛl/; born January 5, 1944) is an American politician who served as the 45th Governor of Pennsylvania. Rendell, a member of the Democratic Party, was elected Governor of Pennsylvania in 2002, and his term of office began January 21, 2003. He was recently a member of the Democratic Governors Association Executive Committee, and also served as General Chairman of the Democratic National Committee during the 2000 presidential election. Rendell is also a football analyst on Comcast SportsNet's Eagles Postgame Live, hosted by Michael Barkann.
    From 2008 to 2009, Governor Rendell was the Chairman of the National Governors Association. He is married to Marjorie Rendell, a Federal judge for the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. Rendell is also a faculty member of the Fels Institute of Government at the University of Pennsylvania, and chair of Team Pennsylvania Foundation.

    Sounds like a republican to me....

    (not a dime's worth of difference IMHO)
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    Hey if you expect me to defend ed rendell I am not going to. but I still think thats sidestepping the main issue... republicans are FAR more likely to sell out on the environment than democrats.
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    is this by any chance in the area of the Quehanna trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteOak View Post
    Hey if you expect me to defend ed rendell I am not going to. but I still think thats sidestepping the main issue... republicans are FAR more likely to sell out on the environment than democrats.
    Yep, I agree that is your opinion. LOL I'm just sayin there ain't no difference. And, there isn't. In Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York and Maryland, it was the democrats that sold the environment down the river. Look at the mid-Atlantic and the Northeast. It's been run for years by democrats, and it has been turned into a sewer. So, what is the difference? There is none. They are just lining their own pockets.
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    my buddy and i are planning on hiking the loyalsock trail this summer. this may change our plans

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    shit half of central pennsylvania is covered by the quehanna trail!

    swoosh - theres many more trails there which dont seem to approach the affected areas.

    vern - pennsylvania state republicans have introduced all of these wonderful, green bills:
    http://www.pasenategop.com/news/2011...son-012711.htm
    http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live...litics&sid=101
    http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D9I0LF2G0.htm

    now please direct me to the equivalent democratic-led initiatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteOak View Post
    shit half of central pennsylvania is covered by the quehanna trail!

    swoosh - theres many more trails there which dont seem to approach the affected areas.

    vern - pennsylvania state republicans have introduced all of these wonderful, green bills:
    http://www.pasenategop.com/news/2011...son-012711.htm
    http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live...litics&sid=101
    http://www.businessweek.com/ap/finan.../D9I0LF2G0.htm

    now please direct me to the equivalent democratic-led initiatives.
    No need to direct you to news stories. The proof is in the pudding, my friend. The Northeast and the mid-Atlantic states have been run since WWII by Democrats. Just look around at the sad state of affairs.

    In any legislator with a minority of Republicans, you can't blame the Republicans for results. Their proposals have gone nowhere. It's time for the Democrats to stand up and admit what they have done to the wild areas of Pennsylvania and other states accross the east coast. They can start with New Jersey IMHO. Let them drink the water, and tell us how they have cared for the environment.

    Not that we would have been better off under Republican leadership. My point is that they are all the same. They are all politicians, (and probably Lawyers) so by default they don't tell the truth. I wont try to defend them, and never will. To try and blame one party, and give the other a free pass, is just plain silly.
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    So how bad can drinking this stuff effect you? Say for a week?

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